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777701's avatar

One of three things can happen with the Nationals tonight, win, lose, rainout ⚾️⚾️⚾️🙋🏼‍♀️

Jonathan Ruddo's avatar

no vivas in the lineup makes me happy. the only nats position player i outright don’t like.

gonatsgo1's avatar

Although he's generally pitched well, I was surprised to note that Cavalli is stil looking for his first W.

Susan V's avatar

He's mostly been the victim of really dead bats -- in three of his five starts he gave up only 1 run! In the other two he gave up 3 and 4.

Susan V's avatar

These days I call it being DeGrommed.

Dave Nemec's avatar

That’s a result of the ridiculous MLB “win” rules where the starter has to go 5 innings, but a reliever only has to be in when his team goes ahead. And Cavalli has struggled at times to get to 5 innings.

cipherlockinexile's avatar

W-L record as a measure of pitcher effectiveness is on the road to extinction anyway with the direction baseball is going.

Dave Nemec's avatar

Let's hope so.

Regardless, they are 1-5 in games Cavalli has started (two extra-inning losses, though).

cipherlockinexile's avatar

The entire concept that an individual pitcher "wins" or "loses" a game is losing almost all meaning with openers, bulk pitchers, starters not going past 5 innings, and multiple bullpen innings and pitchers the norm.

Dave Nemec's avatar

Yep, it's a meaningless stat these days.

Geordie Keitt's avatar

One could argue it was always nonsense concocted by sports writers looking to sell papers by assigning credit and blame because they couldn’t think of other ways to tell stories

Dave Nemec's avatar

Well, up until about 25 years ago, complete games were fairly common, so it kinda made sense. Now, not at all.

gonatsgo1's avatar

Yeah, described in The Official Rules, Section 10, the "Official Scorer."

The interesting provision is sub-part that indicates if starter does not go five that the reliever who "pitched most effectively" gets the win. This sometimes results in a pitcher not getting the W when he's pitching when the team gains and retains the lead.

See 10.19(c) 1.

Dave Nemec's avatar

I believe that did happen in a Nats game a few weeks ago.

Let Teddy Win aka Noodles&Cabg's avatar

Don't be surprised if the high win total on this staff is something like 6.

Why:

- Innings minimum to qualify

- Terrible bullpen

BassMan's avatar

Let's just hope for a more competitive game, and please, no errors guys.

david behnke's avatar

I'd be happy with a rainout announced before the game starts. With a 1pm game tomorrow, waiting to near midnight for rain to clear isn't needed. The Brewers are coming to town and have to have payback on their mind, and a rested Nats squad would be advantageous.

GLH aka NatsFan4Ever's avatar

I am hoping for a Nat's victory if they get the game in and a rainout if it is going to end late into the night/early morning. Either way, you know me: GO NATS!!!

John walker's avatar

I would love have a rainout tonight, as I am planning to go tomorrow and would really enjoy some bonus baseball!

CBinDC's avatar

Looking at the radar this does not look promising tonight

Geordie Keitt's avatar

So the offense has plummeted in the last few games - how much of that is muscle memory kicking in as fatigue builds up and overwhelms the thinking part of the brain that’s trying to implement the new hitting approach? Until it becomes second nature, you’d think the new process is vulnerable in players who grew up under a different set of rules for offense…

cipherlockinexile's avatar

As I've written in other ways before - as goes Wood and Abrams, so goes the offense.

Geordie Keitt's avatar

I guess that’s who I have in mind with my question

cipherlockinexile's avatar

Looking at some radar projections, it looks like they will get hammered with extended rain around 9:30. With the 1pm start tomorrow, one would hope that if that is the case, they would probably have a legal game reached, and should just call it rather than waiting to try to get the rest of the 9 in.

gonatsgo1's avatar

Looks like they'll at least start on time.

No "Delayed Start" notices up.

Mark Zuckerman's avatar

We are underway on a 53-degree Wednesday night in Flushing. The rain is supposed to arrive sometime between 8-9 p.m.

LEE MCDOWELL's avatar

Already coming down, Mark.

Let Teddy Win aka Noodles&Cabg's avatar

CJ RBI off the lefty! Great start, boys.

Tegwar's avatar

C.J. came through. House on the other hand strikes out on 3 pitches.

Tegwar's avatar

Good things happen when you put the ball in play.

natsclop's avatar

I mean, no way this game is happening right, I’m surprised they let the half inning start