When Parker came in there was no doubt what was coming with BE at the plate. None. I If this doesn’t do put an end to his time up with the Nats, don’t know what will.
Winning a series is an artificial construct. Playoff inclusion only cares about total wins and tie breakers. It drives me nuts to hear anyone being satisfied with a "series" win, especially with an 8 run lead in the eighth. Arrggghhhh.
Winning most of the series of the season is as much an “artificial construct” as winning most of the games in a season. It is not a logical fallacy: it means you end the season winning about 2/3 of the games.
Winning this series will offer no succor if the team misses a playoff spot by a single game, by this 11-10 mess. Afraid I heartily disagree. They can't pretend to be satisfied by that.
Nobody said they were satisfied with this result today. That’s a straw man argument. But this is one game out of 162. No reason to over react. There will always be games we coulda, shoulda, woulda. But sometimes this happens. If it happened frequently then it would be a problem. It doesn’t.
I was playing with numbers the other day when they were 32-32. At that point if they took 60 percent of the remaining 98 that would be 58 more wins and they would finish with 90. Hardly an artificial construct.
I know I know there are worse problems to have (especially compared to how they played before this season).
The chances are there for more and it’s still frustrating to see what they’re leaving on the table! Far better than what I expected of them heading into the season however.
This is the worst Nats loss in years, this bullpen is such an insult to the fans and the position players who score runs every night. This team has to get serious and assemble a real bullpen
We are not in win now mode, so this was always going to be the bullpen we had. That being said, no bullpen, no matter how bad they are, should blow an eight-run lead in three innings.
Butera has done a lot of good but he lost that game. No clue why you bring in Mitchell Parker—who might have worst mental game on team—into a pressure situation. Asking for trouble. And Paxton Schultz should have been taken out after the 1st walk but was left in to give up another walk and a double and pitch 40+
That statement makes sense. But you cannot let the game reach the point where Mitch Parker is in a tense situation in the 9th inning. I think Parker as a Nats pitcher is done. He is fragile mentally to begin with. That reminds me of Davey ruining Sam Clay by continuing to put him in high leverage situations. In 2021, lefty Brad Miller hit a GS off Sam Clay and Clay was basically done as a MLB pitcher
Oh, there's definitely a bit of Davey Martinez in Butera. Leaving guys in too long, putting the wrong guy at the wrong time........still waiting to see some form of killer instinct with Blake.
On the offensive side of the ball, he has plenty of killer instinct. His decisions to pinch hit and his lineup construction in general are partly responsible for the offensive explosion this year. He wouldn't be the first Nats manager with a subpar bullpen to begin the season.
And the comment was not directed at fans like you and others that participate no matter the situations. There are those that never recognize the positives but jump in if things go south
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David you are the new Native DC or 4th Street , maybe you are one of them . Bashing anymore that criticizes them even after they blow a 9-1 lead . Parker needs to go is the bottom line and you need to not worry about those that offer criticism in a situation like this
I’ve been critical of this game. You haven’t seen me singing the praises almost daily about this team? Even during losses? It’s actually ok to be critical when it’s deserved and today it is highly deserved. Today I saw a team managed by amateurs.
And there is no reason for you to pick yourself out as my target. You like others are a sincere fan. We had some become outright rude who we never hear from when things are going well. I often wonder if it’s due to betting
That’s fair. And I do recall a handful from MASN who were just like that. Here I thought was different since this site requires a fee to post comments. It keeps the trolls away. Mostly. But I digress. I hear ya.
When Parker came in there was no doubt what was coming with BE at the plate. None. I If this doesn’t do put an end to his time up with the Nats, don’t know what will.
Made me a lot of sad money
I agree long overdue and replace Andres as well
Please
Why in the world do you take Ribalta out of the game?
I was thinking that AS IT HAPPENED....I swear! So I agree!
Over coaching
No leverage pitchers all except Orlando
What a brutal loss. That would've been an excellent way to go into a day off the the homestand, but instead it's just heartbreak.
.500 ball is no longer this team’s boogeyman, it’s now completing a sweep.
What an awful loss by the bullpen.
Puts quite the damper on what could’ve been a 5-1 road trip.
I would LOVE it if the Nats failed to complete the sweep of every series from now until the season ends!
Winning a series is an artificial construct. Playoff inclusion only cares about total wins and tie breakers. It drives me nuts to hear anyone being satisfied with a "series" win, especially with an 8 run lead in the eighth. Arrggghhhh.
Winning most of the series of the season is as much an “artificial construct” as winning most of the games in a season. It is not a logical fallacy: it means you end the season winning about 2/3 of the games.
Winning this series will offer no succor if the team misses a playoff spot by a single game, by this 11-10 mess. Afraid I heartily disagree. They can't pretend to be satisfied by that.
Nobody said they were satisfied with this result today. That’s a straw man argument. But this is one game out of 162. No reason to over react. There will always be games we coulda, shoulda, woulda. But sometimes this happens. If it happened frequently then it would be a problem. It doesn’t.
I was playing with numbers the other day when they were 32-32. At that point if they took 60 percent of the remaining 98 that would be 58 more wins and they would finish with 90. Hardly an artificial construct.
I know I know there are worse problems to have (especially compared to how they played before this season).
The chances are there for more and it’s still frustrating to see what they’re leaving on the table! Far better than what I expected of them heading into the season however.
Onto the next series.
Deparately need 2 more relievers .
That trade for Harry Ford looking brutal.
Can't use Lord every day.
Should have kept Ribalta in
This is the worst Nats loss in years, this bullpen is such an insult to the fans and the position players who score runs every night. This team has to get serious and assemble a real bullpen
Could you remind me of which free agent pitchers considered signing with a projected last place team on the off season
We are not in win now mode, so this was always going to be the bullpen we had. That being said, no bullpen, no matter how bad they are, should blow an eight-run lead in three innings.
Mitchell Parker needs to go. Holy crap.
HOW DO YOU BLOW THAT LEAD?
Varland too. He’s the one who loaded the bases.
Varland im eh on. But Parker should’ve been gone after spring training. Hes absolutely terrible. I don’t understand what this brain trust sees in him
Soul -crushing. DFA Parker
Butera is IN OVER HIS DAMN HEAD that was the worst loss in YEARS you suck kid you really really suck
That’s…extreme. Give credit where credit is due. He’s gotten it right WAY more often than he’s gotten it wrong.
Also, no manager really deserves that level of blame for a bullpen blown an eight-run lead in three innings. That's on the players.
CB needs tranquilizers after games like these . He thinks the team if the worst ever when they lose
Butera has done a lot of good but he lost that game. No clue why you bring in Mitchell Parker—who might have worst mental game on team—into a pressure situation. Asking for trouble. And Paxton Schultz should have been taken out after the 1st walk but was left in to give up another walk and a double and pitch 40+
I think they only had Brad Lord (threw 50+ the day before) and Beeter (threw a bunch each of the two days prior). They just ran out of arms again
That statement makes sense. But you cannot let the game reach the point where Mitch Parker is in a tense situation in the 9th inning. I think Parker as a Nats pitcher is done. He is fragile mentally to begin with. That reminds me of Davey ruining Sam Clay by continuing to put him in high leverage situations. In 2021, lefty Brad Miller hit a GS off Sam Clay and Clay was basically done as a MLB pitcher
Agreed, I just think it’s a bad bullpen without many good options to begin with so it gets exposed
Oh, there's definitely a bit of Davey Martinez in Butera. Leaving guys in too long, putting the wrong guy at the wrong time........still waiting to see some form of killer instinct with Blake.
On the offensive side of the ball, he has plenty of killer instinct. His decisions to pinch hit and his lineup construction in general are partly responsible for the offensive explosion this year. He wouldn't be the first Nats manager with a subpar bullpen to begin the season.
At least let Ribalta pitch another inning.
Even the Rochester Red Wings announcers mentioned the devastating loss
Not sure there is a reason to have Schultz or Parker in the majors
Mark, any indication of why Miles Mikolas was up in the pen?
C&D surmised it was just a side session. At first, they half-joked he might come in and have it in-game given the score at the time.
Ergh
I hope Parker doesn't throw another pitch for the Nationals this year. He's been truly awful.
Well the haters sure came out of the wood work No comments when things were going well though.
The comments were pretty clear to take Schultz out!
That’s neither true, nor fair. Many of us make complimentary comments when the team wins.
Fans who pay good money to watch and follow this team have every right to question such an egregious loss.
Questioning today’s bullpen management does not make fans “haters.”
They’re upset because they care for the team.
And the comment was not directed at fans like you and others that participate no matter the situations. There are those that never recognize the positives but jump in if things go south
Yep. I’m trying not to respond to one in particular. Need to figure out if there is a mute option.
I would love a mute option
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David you are the new Native DC or 4th Street , maybe you are one of them . Bashing anymore that criticizes them even after they blow a 9-1 lead . Parker needs to go is the bottom line and you need to not worry about those that offer criticism in a situation like this
(...) the new Native DC or 4th Street (...)
both very annoying but sensible people
The comments were pretty clear to take Schultz out!
Have to flush this loss, but make some tough bullpen decisions
I’ve been critical of this game. You haven’t seen me singing the praises almost daily about this team? Even during losses? It’s actually ok to be critical when it’s deserved and today it is highly deserved. Today I saw a team managed by amateurs.
And there is no reason for you to pick yourself out as my target. You like others are a sincere fan. We had some become outright rude who we never hear from when things are going well. I often wonder if it’s due to betting
That’s fair. And I do recall a handful from MASN who were just like that. Here I thought was different since this site requires a fee to post comments. It keeps the trolls away. Mostly. But I digress. I hear ya.
Thank you
Schultz was also terrible in the 7th. Why bring him out for another inning? He retired 3 of 9 and he left him in. Bringing in parker was even worse
Bingo.