They’ve already replaced three NL pitchers without adding Griffin. It’s criminal.
I know Al Galdi says we shouldn’t put too much stock in All-Star selections because of the arbitrariness, but this must be enormously important to Griffin as a 30-year-old rookie.
This is legacy stuff. If he makes the All-Star team that’s at the top of his Baseball Reference page forever.
Someday it might top his obituary:
“Foster Griffin, a former All-Star pitcher for the Washington Nationals…”
Paul Taboni needs to pick up the phone and call both the Commissioner and Dave Roberts and advocate for Griffin addition to the NL AST. I am wondering when Griffin’s name will be included in the NL CY conversation??
Three Nationals hitters already have 20 homers and 60 RBI, and Foster Griffin has allowed zero or one run in seven straight starts. His 10 wins already match the most by any Nationals pitcher in a season since 2019. All of this before the All-Star break.
At some point, the numbers are too loud to ignore. This team can hit, and hit for power.
Please, Paul Toboni and the Lerner's, seriously think about taking a chance on this team. Playing meaningful games in September would be huge for the development of this team.
It’s so obvious, especially after tonight, that Griffin deserves an All-Star selection. I personally would love to see it mostly for Griffin himself but also for us fans who root for him. I’m ignoring the fact that if he does get selected, it may make it harder for us to keep him. I would love to have that guy pitch for us into the future beyond this year.
Very glad Irvin is throwing and feeling better. But I would not take Alvarez out for him or even move Alvarez to long man. Alvarez has a 3.2 ERA over his short career, has shown he can start and is still growing and learning. Jake is around 5 ERA in both career and this year. Given both healthy and rested, I would throw Alvarez.
This team is just awesome for such a young group. It sure would nice if the front office and owners would show up and get some MLB quality relievers. I learned today from NatsChat Podcast from Mark Zuckerman that Blake Butera accepted responsibility for Cole Henry meltdown because Henry was not being conditioned at ROC to go more 1 IP…YGTBKM🤷🏼🤷🏼. How can there be a big disconnect between the Nats and their development staff in their MiLB affiliates????
Paul Taboni it’s Nike Time to get a MLB Bull Pen Staff…Just Do It!!! You owe to the this team to leverage what they have been delivering…the 4 BP meltdown (@SFG, 3 vs PHI) should have been Curly W’s and the Nats would square in the middle of the WC race. Your AAA roulette and waiver wire dumpster diving is disingenuous to the team. Doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different outcome is as we all know is the definition of insanity. Even if you failed to anticipate this incredible level of performance before the season …no good plan survives first contact with reality. So, where is your contingency plan to address this chocolate mess of a BP???
Birthday—humble apologies for my poor grammar…on today’s NatsChat Podcast…Mark Z attended a pregame presser with Butera in which Butera intimated that the ROC staff had not prepared Henry and other AAA relievers to pitch multiple innings when called up to the big leagues. I drew the inference as did Mark that there was a big disconnect between the Nats’ development staff, Nats’ Coaches and at least ROC staff. Butera’s expectation is every reliever called up should be prepared mentally and physically to pitch multiple innings. This would explain why Butera left several relievers in past 1 IP only to watch the oppo snatch victory from the jaws of defeat because of BP meltdown (@SFG, and 3 vs PHI).
Yes and I was totally surprised with the way Butera decided to go public with it… may be a little friction and frustration on his part to stay connected to the position players and SPs who are self-actualizing their performance only to see the front office and ownership playing switch’em because they had no contingency plan for a team at or above .500 and produce an MLB leading offensive juggernaut.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out between Butera, his staff and the Front Office 🤔🤔🤔
Or maybe that's just an experience. When he was last a manager it was in the lower level minors where most of the pitchers are entering the system as starters and get sorted into the start and relief roles. That would give him the experience that most of his players are already conditioned to go multiple innings. That was something he may have continued and encouraged when he was in charge of the Rays development pipeline. Its something he may have just expected to be standard practice, but wasn't clearly communicated down to the minor league pitching coordinators.
Hmmm...then why go public with the comments and appear to throw others under the bus? Either way it seems to highlight a communications gap that I wouldn't expect from what appear to a well oiled machine.
Not to be overlooked is how the Nats pitchers totally handled the best hitter in baseball this season, Yordan Alvarez (going into the series he had an OPS .100 higher than Shohei, for instance, and easily paced MLB): he was one for fourteen in the series (a single in game 1) with no walks and 5 Ks. Nats pitchers challenged him all series long/did the opposite of the usual "pitching scared" we've seen WAY too much this year. Hopefully the success they had with that approach will pay dividends....
Yeah, those 2 pitchers in a 3-game Yankees series doesn't really leave me very confident. Taking 1 out of 3 might be considered positive. I think it's going to be a slugfest this weekend.
What's more surprising for Nats fans: That the team is two-games over .500. at this point[ that the unknown Foster Griffin is pitching at a Cy Young level or that Luis Garcia has emerged as the kind of hitter few us thought was ever going to happen? And to add one more: How giddy I felt after last night's win.
Foster cemented his status as 1st available pitcher for ASG selection, pending a current selection dropout
Totally, totally agree.
They’ve already replaced three NL pitchers without adding Griffin. It’s criminal.
I know Al Galdi says we shouldn’t put too much stock in All-Star selections because of the arbitrariness, but this must be enormously important to Griffin as a 30-year-old rookie.
This is legacy stuff. If he makes the All-Star team that’s at the top of his Baseball Reference page forever.
Someday it might top his obituary:
“Foster Griffin, a former All-Star pitcher for the Washington Nationals…”
Paul Taboni needs to pick up the phone and call both the Commissioner and Dave Roberts and advocate for Griffin addition to the NL AST. I am wondering when Griffin’s name will be included in the NL CY conversation??
Personally, I don't care about the all star selection...but please extend him.
Same. And same.
Three Nationals hitters already have 20 homers and 60 RBI, and Foster Griffin has allowed zero or one run in seven straight starts. His 10 wins already match the most by any Nationals pitcher in a season since 2019. All of this before the All-Star break.
At some point, the numbers are too loud to ignore. This team can hit, and hit for power.
Please, Paul Toboni and the Lerner's, seriously think about taking a chance on this team. Playing meaningful games in September would be huge for the development of this team.
Not to mention the positive impact it would have on the fanbase!
Toboni and the Lerners need to do the obvious!!
Taboni says “ yes” the Lerners say “ no”
Sorry, it's Toboni not Taboni
TOBO the POBO! 😂
Great team win.
Foster rocks...wow
It's getting hard for Mr. Garcia" not to get a hit" :)
It’s so obvious, especially after tonight, that Griffin deserves an All-Star selection. I personally would love to see it mostly for Griffin himself but also for us fans who root for him. I’m ignoring the fact that if he does get selected, it may make it harder for us to keep him. I would love to have that guy pitch for us into the future beyond this year.
Yep, right on (as we used to say):))
Very glad Irvin is throwing and feeling better. But I would not take Alvarez out for him or even move Alvarez to long man. Alvarez has a 3.2 ERA over his short career, has shown he can start and is still growing and learning. Jake is around 5 ERA in both career and this year. Given both healthy and rested, I would throw Alvarez.
This team is just awesome for such a young group. It sure would nice if the front office and owners would show up and get some MLB quality relievers. I learned today from NatsChat Podcast from Mark Zuckerman that Blake Butera accepted responsibility for Cole Henry meltdown because Henry was not being conditioned at ROC to go more 1 IP…YGTBKM🤷🏼🤷🏼. How can there be a big disconnect between the Nats and their development staff in their MiLB affiliates????
Paul Taboni it’s Nike Time to get a MLB Bull Pen Staff…Just Do It!!! You owe to the this team to leverage what they have been delivering…the 4 BP meltdown (@SFG, 3 vs PHI) should have been Curly W’s and the Nats would square in the middle of the WC race. Your AAA roulette and waiver wire dumpster diving is disingenuous to the team. Doing the same thing over and over again while expecting a different outcome is as we all know is the definition of insanity. Even if you failed to anticipate this incredible level of performance before the season …no good plan survives first contact with reality. So, where is your contingency plan to address this chocolate mess of a BP???
"How is there the big if of a disconnect between the Nats and their development staff in their MiLB affiliates????"
(...)
"Paul Taboni it’s Nike Time to get a MLB Bull Pen Staff…Just Do It!!!"
ok, but his name is Toboni... when not typing multiple exclamation points and question marks, you can look it up.
Thank you
Birthday—humble apologies for my poor grammar…on today’s NatsChat Podcast…Mark Z attended a pregame presser with Butera in which Butera intimated that the ROC staff had not prepared Henry and other AAA relievers to pitch multiple innings when called up to the big leagues. I drew the inference as did Mark that there was a big disconnect between the Nats’ development staff, Nats’ Coaches and at least ROC staff. Butera’s expectation is every reliever called up should be prepared mentally and physically to pitch multiple innings. This would explain why Butera left several relievers in past 1 IP only to watch the oppo snatch victory from the jaws of defeat because of BP meltdown (@SFG, and 3 vs PHI).
That does explain a significant pattern where relievers all too frequently follow a clean inning with a train wreck.
Yes and I was totally surprised with the way Butera decided to go public with it… may be a little friction and frustration on his part to stay connected to the position players and SPs who are self-actualizing their performance only to see the front office and ownership playing switch’em because they had no contingency plan for a team at or above .500 and produce an MLB leading offensive juggernaut.
Will be interesting to see how this plays out between Butera, his staff and the Front Office 🤔🤔🤔
Or maybe that's just an experience. When he was last a manager it was in the lower level minors where most of the pitchers are entering the system as starters and get sorted into the start and relief roles. That would give him the experience that most of his players are already conditioned to go multiple innings. That was something he may have continued and encouraged when he was in charge of the Rays development pipeline. Its something he may have just expected to be standard practice, but wasn't clearly communicated down to the minor league pitching coordinators.
Hmmm...then why go public with the comments and appear to throw others under the bus? Either way it seems to highlight a communications gap that I wouldn't expect from what appear to a well oiled machine.
I didn't take it that he was throwing anyone under the bus.
Three players with 20 or more HRs and 60 or more RBI thru 94 games and the highest scoring offense in baseball. Wow, who saw that from this team?
And, Griffin was magnificent again.
Not to be overlooked is how the Nats pitchers totally handled the best hitter in baseball this season, Yordan Alvarez (going into the series he had an OPS .100 higher than Shohei, for instance, and easily paced MLB): he was one for fourteen in the series (a single in game 1) with no walks and 5 Ks. Nats pitchers challenged him all series long/did the opposite of the usual "pitching scared" we've seen WAY too much this year. Hopefully the success they had with that approach will pay dividends....
Littell and Mikolas should fix what ails the slumping Yankees. Yikes…Nats are going to need to score a LOT of runs this weekend.
And when will the Chaparro experiment end? Time for YoYo to make his debut.
And imagine if Crews were living up to all his potential. The line up would be downright scary.
OK, enough venting for tonight. Love this team. Go Nats!
(Oh, and extend Griffin now!)
Yeah, those 2 pitchers in a 3-game Yankees series doesn't really leave me very confident. Taking 1 out of 3 might be considered positive. I think it's going to be a slugfest this weekend.
What's more surprising for Nats fans: That the team is two-games over .500. at this point[ that the unknown Foster Griffin is pitching at a Cy Young level or that Luis Garcia has emerged as the kind of hitter few us thought was ever going to happen? And to add one more: How giddy I felt after last night's win.