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McMerc7MHDC's avatar

Ugh. Just not a sharp performance in any facet. And the lack of sharpness cost them.

Anyone else notice that Parker has quietly become less effective?

Tegwar's avatar

If his slider is working he pitches well, if not he gets hit. His secondary pitches are not that great. He also needs a longer rest time I think probably from being a starter so many years, maybe he can adjust.

Steven Davidson's avatar

I really like Nunez but we are now on Seaver King watch.

Tony Dillon's avatar

Nasim Nuñez's throwing error in the 7th proves to be very costly. If he makes an on-target throw and gets the out, the inning never gets to Jackson Merrill and he doesn't blast the winning two run homer off Mitchell Parker.

peter wood's avatar

Yeah, that throwing error was very costly!!

paul penniman's avatar

At least the Padres' bullpen will be taxed!

On a side note, one of my favorite all-time bumper stickers was created when Steve Garvey joined the Padres and started having kids out of wedlock, very much contrary to his clean-cut image.

The sticker read, "Steve Garvey is not my Padre"

Rebecca's avatar

I just read up on him and I’d put that sticker on my car too. So many things to not like about him. So many.

Tegwar's avatar

The Padres ended up walking Wood and C.J. twice, so I do wonder if that was part of their plan, make someone else beat them. But really, this game came down to the pitching and poor defense. That’s what cost the Nats more than anything.

Josh Sager's avatar

Toboni needs to cut his losses and end the Jorbit Vivas experiment.

McMerc7MHDC's avatar

Agreed. I wonder who would replace him on the roster. Maybe King?

Josh Sager's avatar

Brady House. Duh.

Natty Bumppo's avatar

Parker isn't fooling anybody anymore. He's settled in to the same 5 + ERA pitcher he's always been. He's not the guy to bring in with less than a 3 run lead.

joelalt1's avatar

Morales had 3 hits and 2 HR's tonight in Rochester.

Tegwar's avatar

Also the Red Wings 11th win in a row, winning this game in the 11th inning, seems fitting.

Steven Davidson's avatar

Agree on Parker but Tough game and unlucky for the Nats. Alvarez couldn’t put hitters away but he got beat with runners on the move and soft contact. Not sure why they didn’t try pitch outs in those obvious running situations. And Garcia crushed that ball. Very unlucky. Miller really didn’t have it.

Testudonal Fortitude's avatar

Pitch- outs are becoming, if not already, obsolete. Pitch-outs are rarely used today because they result in a negative run expectancy (managers called 415 pitchouts in 2012 and actually gave the opposing offense 18 extra runs. The average pitchout costs a team .04 runs.)Data show that teams successfully guessed when a runner was stealing approximately 20% of the time.

Here’s an excerpt from Baseball Prospectus / Pebble Hunting Jan 13, 2013:

“On Sept. 23, 2012, the Washington Nationals pitched out. “I could count the times on one hand that the Nats have pitched out this year,” said MASN broadcaster F.P. Santangelo. Hmmm.

I think I stopped paying much attention to pitchouts around 1987. I know they happen; if you’d asked me to guess, I’d have guessed there was one every two games, enough that I know they happen but don't really notice them. I know they work sometimes; if you’d asked me to guess, I’d have guessed the pitchout was timed correctly about half the time, and if you’d asked me to guess, I’d have guessed that in such cases the baserunner was out around three times out of four. If my guesses were correct, it would make the pitchout a tremendously valuable strategy, but one that, for obvious reasons, could be deployed only occasionally.

As it turns out, my guesses are way off. Pitchouts are rarer than I thought, correctly executed less often than I thought, and successful at gunning down the baserunner less often than I thought. They are, it turns out, sort of dumb.

Like any strategy, different managers have different philosophies about it. Santangelo was correct about the Nationals’ pitchouts. That one was Washington’s fourth and final pitchout of the year, meaning Santangelo could count the times on one hand, even somebody else’s hand. Two of those four were attempts to snuff out a squeeze play, and for our purposes today we’re going to ignore those types of pitchouts, or at least the ones we can identify easily*; whenever you see “pitchout” henceforth, it is limited to pitchouts that were probably not squeeze-thwarters. So Davey Johnson called just two pitchouts in the 2012 season, the fewest (probably) in baseball.” Full article: https://web.archive.org/web/20160311012817/http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=19373

https://web.archive.org/web/20160116062144/http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/sabermetrics-is-killing-bad-dugout-decisions/

https://pebblehunting.substack.com/p/maybe-the-last-timei-dont-know

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5fkd5BymJoE

Steve's avatar

Dang! Every team in MLB has an opponent that are their nemesis and, for the Nationals, that’s the San Diego Padres. The Friars just seem to find ways to beat our home 9 year in and year out, all the way back to 2005.

For these Padres, it’s an 8 inning game. Trying to come back against Mason Miller is like trying to eat soup with a fork.

Ron L's avatar

If memory serves, that great line was originally delivered by Pops, Willie Stargell, upon being asked to describe how to have a successful at bat against the Steve Carlton slider.